nop_90

Sending people from my doorway pages straight to signup i think is losing me conversions.

Perks talked something about LAMP box or some shit like that Applause
In a nutshell shared hosting that already has basic stuff installed for like

Perl

 /

Php

  etc.

Anyway just wondering what type of framework you

perl

  guys use ?
i have found ones like
www.catalystframework.org
maypole.

perl

 .org
jifty.org/view/HomePage

Going hand in hand with that i need some sort of shared hosting.
This shared hosting should have the ability to install cpan modules (i think that means it needs ssh access ?)
Main reason i plan to go shared route that way i do not have to worry about management etc
(this the whole reason i am intrested in this LAMP stuff)
also the shared hosting should allow adult oriented content.

Thanx

perkiset

Hey Nop -

LAMP is

Linux

 ,

Apache

 , MySQL and

PHP

 , although some would argue

PERL

 .

PM this guy "tastetheabalone" - he is an ISP lurking here that is ... erm... friendly and understanding of your needs Applause and he can probably hook you up with a VPS solution that will give you SSH level access to a private area - even though you're sharing processing with others, nothing else. He is also a personal friend and I can vouch for him and his company. In that space, you can install WTF you want. It will be considerably more expensive than cheap shared hosting (think in the $30-$40 US range per month I think) but it's essentially your own

Linux

  instance on the spine.

Or PM me and I can details this more.

And with regards to the

PERL

  frameworks, I can say this: I have no fishing idea  Applause

slaphappy

Perl

  was the ORIGINAL "P" in LAMP. Applause

Most of the "frameworks" in

Perl

  are for mod_

perl

  though, and you really won't find that in a shared hosing environment.  It's just not designed for it.  I've done some work in mod_

perl

  for a prior day job, and I can tell you it is screaming fast.

This "catalyst" framework looks like it works with FastCGI as well as mod_

perl

 , but I don't know if many hosts offer FastCGI.  Maybe lots do, I just don't know.

perkiset

Wow man... hate to do this to you but:

LAMP
DEFINITION: An open source Web development platform based on

Linux

 ,

Apache

 , MySQL, and

PHP

 , a

programming

  language for which

Perl

  or

Python

  is sometimes substituted.

Sources:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LAMP_(software_bundle)
http://isp.webopedia.com/TERM/L/LAMP.html
http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/L/LAMP.html
http://dict.die

.net

 /lamp/
http://searchenterprise

linux

 .techtarget.com/sDefinition/0,,sid39_gci779342,00.html
http://dret

.net

 /glossary/lamp
http://en.csharp-online

.net

 /GlossaryApplauseefinition_-_LAMP
http://www.bitpipe.com/tlist/LAMP.html
http://www.cryer.co.uk/glossary/l/lamp.htm
http://www.techweb.com/encyclopedia/def

inet

 erm.jhtml?term=LAMP

Here's a particularly good one:
http://killersoft.com/randomstrings/2006/02/24/note-lamp-isnt-about-

perl

 -or-

python

 /
"I hate to be the bad guy here, but the P in the LAMP stack is about

PHP

 .
I'm not making this up. The Wikipedia entry for the LAMP software bundle points back to the article that coined the term, and the author there clearly states that LAMP stands for

Linux

  +

Apache

  + MySQL +

PHP

 .
Anyone else writing

tutor

 ial articles, please make note of this.

Perl

  and

Python

  understandably want to hang out with the cool kids, but those languages are LAMP afterthoughts latching onto the P in LAMP like a puppy dry-humping

PHP

 s leg.
Im not saying that any one language is better than another, but I just cant stand reading articles that define LAMP as an acronym that includes or originally included those other P languages.

All that being said, I could care less - but I just got back from a local microbrewery (Yes DBDog Sonora) and about 2 too many Hefeweizens deep to be posting. So I had to look and see if I was really that far off base...

Cheers! and Bottoms Up!  Applause
/p

nop_90

who cares what the P stands for Applause
point is every crappy webhost offers

perl

 .
so therefore the host requires very little config Applause

JasonD

Perk you're wrong.

I don't hold the view "Wikipedia says so, so it MUST be true"

I can't prove that P !=

PHP

  but I can give you my word I was using the term LAMP prior to 1998 and the P definately stood for

Perl

 .

P in LAMP orginally stood for

Perl

  and was hijacked by lil kiddy copy and paster coders who liked

PHP

  and presumed that was the right language to use.

Little did they know the true power of the practical extraction and reporting language!

perkiset

quote author=JasonD link=topic=448.msg2949#msg2949 date=1187860106

I don't hold the view "Wikipedia says so, so it MUST be true"

Applause Hey now... they wouldn't print it if it wasn't true...  Applause Applause Applause

I honestly don't care either and you're probably correct... but I must bust balls, it's the law.

/p

JasonD

That's OK Ed, once

Perl

 6.com goes finally live you'll be able to use a proper language but still code in your favuorite

PHP

  Applause

perkiset

A Proper Language?

Fish me - has ObjectADA finally been released?

JasonD

Applause

nop_90

who cares wtf the P stands for Applause
what type of framework (if you use one) do u use jasond ?

JasonD

I dont use one.

99% of my code is command line and very little is actual web sites believe it or not Applause

dirk

I also don't use a framework on the server.

I'm using Komodo for the development on my local PC. That's it.

ratthing

quote author=nop_90 link=topic=448.msg2906#msg2906 date=1187481272

Going hand in hand with that i need some sort of shared hosting.
This shared hosting should have the ability to install cpan modules (i think that means it needs ssh access ?)
Main reason i plan to go shared route that way i do not have to worry about management etc
(this the whole reason i am intrested in this LAMP stuff)
also the shared hosting should allow adult oriented content.

Nop, adult content was the stumbling block for me in finding a shared host as well.  There are some that have ssh (chroot jail), but I've not found any that have ssh which allow adult content.  You'll pretty much have to go VPS or "know a guy" (e.g. small company) if you want both.  That said, my shared host *will* install CPAN modules for you if you open a support ticket.  PM me if you want contact info.

In a VPS situations, you will be responsible for patching and upgrading your VPS's OS, afaik.

=RT=


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