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« on: September 17, 2007, 08:51:52 AM »

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I purchased Spector for the Mac to monitor my childrens' computers. It phones home, and if there is more than one install - even if it is on your own computers ie., your desk top and your notebook and you don't use them simultaneously you will get a delightful email from Jason Ground and his explanation that you need to purchase additional license(s) or they will disable all of them within 48 hours (they claim a bullet capability, doesn't surprise me).

NEVER in 30 years of development have I seen a company so arrogantly tight about their licenses. Clearly, the mark of a company that desperately needs to catch every single dollar they can. All 6 of their products do the same, regardless of OS (they have products for Windoz as well). I will be looking elsewhere simply on GP: I am no abuser of developer's good hard work - I understand fair use and fair compensation. But don't fucking call home and check on me you assholes...
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« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2007, 03:04:27 PM »

ideally you are primarily concerned about traffic to and from their computers right? I assume your boys looking at porn is not the issue, but the potential that they are getting into something bad? And your daughter getting abducted or being the porn...

I have always thought that system installs were horribly flawed, because any kid worth his/her salt would be able to get around it once they discover it, and they will discover it.

Although I have quite a few years before I have to worry about it, if I did today, I would get a solution that is between them and the internet, that they don't need to know about, and they can't get around. At my prior job, I was assigned the task of Spying on employees. I resisted many months, until my supervisor made my life hell. My sysadmin at the time, and I, installed ISA server and I wrote a reporting package. Got that bastard fired, yeay! The point is, noone knew, but the two of us.

I know there are some hardware solutions that you can just drop in-line that will monitor traffic. Scanning for trigger words, etc. I just don't know what any of them are.

The irony is about this product you got. You are complaining about a spyware package that phones home and is anal about its use. LOL I agree with you, just thought it was funny.
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« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2007, 03:10:20 PM »

ideally you are primarily concerned about traffic to and from their computers right? I assume your boys looking at porn is not the issue, but the potential that they are getting into something bad? And your daughter getting abducted or being the porn...

I have always thought that system installs were horribly flawed, because any kid worth his/her salt would be able to get around it once they discover it, and they will discover it.
Agreed, it's a stopgap. A desperate dad in the age of the 'net trying to keep the kiddies as safe as possible for as long as possible. :sigh:


The irony is about this product you got. You are complaining about a spyware package that phones home and is anal about its use. LOL I agree with you, just thought it was funny.
No lie. Hacker turned hypocritcal pops, bagged by crappy spyware he installed himself. Marvelous how the universe works and all. Except when *I'm* the enemy-body floating by (bad reverse reference to Sun Tzu  ROFLMAO )
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« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2007, 04:56:46 AM »

Have you not sniffed the packets then hijacked the comms so that you can continue it's use (after releasing it into the wild as payback) ?
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« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2007, 09:47:54 AM »

I'd never do such.  Devilish
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« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2007, 09:17:55 AM »

Have you not sniffed the packets then hijacked the comms so that you can continue it's use (after releasing it into the wild as payback) ?

Had to do this with an equally asinine piece of software. I didn't really even need to use it on another computer, but both for "intellectual challenge" and "because I'd never write something that esoteric", I set up a little webserver on the local machine and made the address it was asking for just point right to 127.0.0.1 (no place like 127.0.0.1), complete with a little index.html that echoed back what the registered version of the program expected. It was utterly simplistic though, no trading of hashes back and forth, just a "here is all the information about my system", replied to with a "ok", or "not ok" (obviously not as simple as just "ok", but you get the drift).
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« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2007, 09:24:51 AM »

It is delightful to me, that, with the exception of a socket-level secured connection, the HTTP protocol sends you everything you need to know about ... um ... whatever you need to know about a server. Deligthful!
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« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2007, 09:42:22 AM »

I came across (what I think is) the worst security mechanism I have ever seen today.

pseduo code is below

Code:
if ( get("http://www.domain.dom/regcheck.script?host=".$ENV{HTTP_HOST} eq "1"){
$registered ="valid";{
else $registered = "invalid";}

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Problem was I bought the sole rights to the codebase so need to incorporate somethign a little more robust Smiley
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« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2007, 09:58:48 AM »

LOL this is gonna wind up being a great thread of discussion my friend Wink
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« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2007, 07:23:35 AM »


There is a better designed free software that doesn't spy on the spy's.  It is called internetreferee and it is available at  http:internetreferee.com.

If you configure it during the 'free trial' it will continue working after the expiration of the trial.
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« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2007, 08:17:38 AM »

That's great Andy, thanks for the post and welcome to the Cache!
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« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2007, 10:04:18 AM »

<RANT>
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I purchased Spector for the Mac to monitor my childrens' computers. It phones home, and if there is more than one install - even if it is on your own computers ie., your desk top and your notebook and you don't use them simultaneously you will get a delightful email from Jason Ground and his explanation that you need to purchase additional license(s) or they will disable all of them within 48 hours (they claim a bullet capability, doesn't surprise me).

I agree with your rant, not making any friends with their customers with that kind of attitude, and it seems pretty contrary to the general attitude of the Mac community.

The phone-home solution is the Little Snitch.  While Macs do come with ipfw integrated out of the box, Little Snitch is a friendlier user-land outbound network traffic monitor that pops up and notifies you when a new app is trying to go outbound, and allows you to immediately configure a rule for that app.

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« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2007, 12:15:30 PM »

Dig it - perfect name for the app to. That's on the list for today, thanks RT.
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« Reply #13 on: October 29, 2007, 12:31:51 PM »

You're welcome, Perk.  Always glad to help out a fellow Mac geek.

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« Reply #14 on: October 29, 2007, 01:37:16 PM »

Speaking of Mac geeks... are you / have you gone Leopard? I just did and the jury is still out...
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