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« on: April 03, 2008, 09:56:32 PM »

http://www.infoworld.com/archives/emailPrint.jsp?R=printThis&A=/article/08/04/01/Five-reasons-to-ditch-the-Mac-and-return-to-PCs_1.html

The views expressed in the afforementioned article......... yada, yada, yada
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« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2008, 01:29:33 AM »

Typical Windoz rationalization. His arguments first off make clear that the problems are his IT staff and keeping up, not "productivity of the users" as he is so fond of saying. It is bullshit to claim that people are moving to the Mac because of the aluminum case as opposed to the OS or productivity - I've yet to EVER meet a user where the case trumped what you can do with the box.

His further notion of having to do workarounds points more towards his lock to windows and making the OS-X folks adhere, rather than having an OS-agnostic environment. It's as biased as any MacNazi ever was.

All that said, if PCs work for him, more power to him. But don't wrap the notion of "OS religion" into your own workflow and load pal... that's as bad as any fanboi ever was.

Undug IMO. (Thanks tho TD for the link...)
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« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2008, 06:18:53 AM »

long live wind0ze! crucify me now!

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« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2008, 11:34:12 AM »

No crucification req'd.

As long as pc's are sold with windoxy installed there will be a need for windoxen aps.

If I had started with Apple back in the early '80's, I'd prolly be wondering why anyone would ever run a win ap.

I have too many purchased packages that only run on billyGates' system to ever turn it off entirely.  Even if it crashes on a semi-regular schedule.  Even if it is a memory hog.  Even if it is as phuked up as it is.  I'm stuck with it for ~long time.
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« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2008, 12:07:30 PM »

Yaknow dink that's the funniest part to me - I did have a Mac in 1985 - I saw the commercial and had to have it. Delightful little thing and I have an emulator of the OS for giggles to this day.

But it was clear all along that there was no money in it for a tech guy and programmer like me - it was a tool for artists, production houses and such. But I never stopped loving the company. Hell - I did most of my learning in Apple ][ basic and 6502 assembly - the whole thing is a warm spot in my heart.

But since about '82 I made all of my money working with DOS and then Windows starting about v3.1. I did well and even became a very strong VB programmer, then Delphi and Borland C++. But by about 1999/2000 I was so tired of rebooting systems and dealing with all of the baggage that came with Windows I was looking elsewhere and made the wholesale jump into Linux and Solaris. It was marvelous... servers just worked, things were fast and clean. They were ugly and had a somewhat steep learning curve (I REALLY understood why the evolution of windows had come to be) but they really did the job.

Then a few years ago, my primary machine melted down. I had heard that the Mac had gone to a Unix base, so I investigated and decided that if there was ever a time to give'r it a shot, now was it... and I have never looked back.

The point of my diatribe is that when you bind yourself to any language, OS, toolset etc then your stuck with the baggage and crap that comes with it as well. I make a point of being nimble enough to move off any one of my tools when something better comes along. And you can betcha... if something comes along that is better than my Mac or *nix then they'll lose me as well. It seems that every 3 years like clockwork I make a major shift in my toolset and frameworks... and that has kept me young and vital as a tech person. I strongly recommend that to everyone, young and old.

Just remember to keep the Advil handy...
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« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2008, 12:11:28 PM »

agreed re: lazy IT staff. The problem in that article is clearly not the platform. I'm out of my sysadmin life now, but I know that regardless of whether you're MS-only, Linux-only, or mixed mode and supporting Macs, you still have to write thousands of lines of scripts to make everything work properly. Interoperability is a lame excuse.
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« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2008, 12:35:43 PM »

Just remember to keep the Advil handy...

Yes.  And the Pepto Bismol.  Grin

Since I started my journey into the wonderful wold of linux, I've disliked the way windoxy works.

If there was an easy and mostly painless way for me to unravel the win aps and run them on linux I'd be gone from win before you could blink twice.

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