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« on: May 05, 2010, 09:03:40 PM »

HP's Memristor tech - better than flash?
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/04/08/hp_memristor/

Not really sure what a memristor is, some sort of transistor like device that can be packed more dense then a transistor, hence moore's law can keep continuing.

Has nothing really to do with apple Smiley, but apple fanboi's post all sorts of unrelated articles to prove apple is the best so what the heck
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« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2010, 10:01:52 PM »

Memristor is awesome if they get it working like they have promissed. It would be the traditional harddisk replacement nand/flash tries to be. The problem with SSD hds is that they are not just that awesome compared to traditional hds. They are faster but not that much faster and not to mention the price. Memristor could also take harddrive based databases to a whole new level.
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« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2010, 10:17:24 PM »

There's a bit of sales hooey in there (the brain uses something like a memristor .. With this we could do things like the human brain!) but the immediate outlook is pretty cool ... They're working on 3nm dies while flash is still at 25?that's a ge difference in potential density, particularly since they site that Flash gets less reliable as it's made more dense.

It would be great if there was an inexpensive alternative to platters, spindles and heads.
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« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2010, 12:07:04 AM »

There's a bit of sales hooey in there (the brain uses something like a memristor .. With this we could do things like the human brain!) but the immediate outlook is pretty cool ... They're working on 3nm dies while flash is still at 25?that's a ge difference in potential density, particularly since they site that Flash gets less reliable as it's made more dense.

It would be great if there was an inexpensive alternative to platters, spindles and heads.
Yeah, I agree.. just imagine how fast everything would be even with current hardware if we could replace harddrives with DDR3 Smiley In 64bit era it's very likely that you can soon get operating system that loads itself fully in the memory and uses the rest of the memory to hold your most frequently used files. Most of the OSes do this already but at least based on my experiences with OSX, it still uses harddrive A LOT and doesn't put frequently used program files etc. in the memory. But of course caching files in the memory just in case would require a whole new memory management system. I honestly don't know much about how modern OSes use memory so all this is just based on what I think Smiley
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« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2010, 02:30:55 AM »

Memory Use is just one use for them
http://highscalability.com/blog/2010/5/5/how-will-memristors-change-everything.html

This artice claims they can perform logic.
So therefore your entire memory would be a CPU (I think Smiley)
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« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2010, 06:14:33 AM »

Yes they should certainly be able to perform logic. Don't know how many of you guys have some EE in your past, but the name "memristor" implies that it's capable of making at least rudimentary decisions based on logic. I don't know how many logic gates would be inherent to the design, but if it's NAND memory like flash then that means it can do pretty much anything. NAND gates are the one type of logic gate that, given sufficient quantity, can replace any other type of logic gate.
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« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2010, 06:15:47 AM »

Actually, now that I think about it, you could probably do nearly anything with XOR gates too...you'd just need more of them.
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« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2010, 07:13:12 AM »

Memory Use is just one use for them
http://highscalability.com/blog/2010/5/5/how-will-memristors-change-everything.html

This artice claims they can perform logic.
So therefore your entire memory would be a CPU (I think Smiley)

Or these could be the intelligent processors containing specialized brain like framework built-in. If it's up to current companies, you'll be soon buying different chips for everything. I can see a slogan "There's a chip for that" already...
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« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2010, 02:11:17 PM »

Yes they should certainly be able to perform logic. Don't know how many of you guys have some EE in your past, but the name "memristor" implies that it's capable of making at least rudimentary decisions based on logic. I don't know how many logic gates would be inherent to the design, but if it's NAND memory like flash then that means it can do pretty much anything. NAND gates are the one type of logic gate that, given sufficient quantity, can replace any other type of logic gate.
All boolean operations can be made with 2 types of gates, NAND and NOR.
An XOR takes 5 NAND gates Smiley

If you have enuff NAND gates you can do an entire CPU Smiley


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« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2010, 10:50:51 AM »

Precisely nop.

Actually that's the reason computers can't subtract or multiply. All they can do is flip the bits and add. They just do it really, really fast.
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