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[m0nkeymafia]

Well I'm at work so just the usual
Suspenders and a short skirt

RaaaOOowwW 

[dirtdog1960to]

total size = width [padding isnt included]

so all you do is this
#mybox { IE style and everything else here }
html > body #mybox { FF specific stuff }

dummies lak me dont unnerstan your shortcuts if you are in the mood could give a full example of teh code?

[m0nkeymafia]

yeah sure nps

this is purely from memory so it may have the opposite effect
but

/*Normal class inc IE stuff*/
div.myclass {
background-color: #efefef;
width: 500px;
padding: 10px;
}

/* Firefox specific version, basically touch up the widths etc */
html > body div.myclass {
width: 480px; /* Note this is original width - left padding - right padding */
padding: 10px;
}

Job done - lemmie know if it works