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« on: January 10, 2012, 08:35:08 PM » |
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how much % is accepted rate from machine point of view ? template structure/tag usage similarity between each template ?
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« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2012, 10:37:55 PM » |
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100% if you use a default template that comes with an app. Like wordpress. they could never penalize for that.  beyond that, anyone who says they know is lying.
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I could eat a bowl of Alphabet Soup and shit a better argument than that.
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« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2012, 02:33:57 AM » |
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100% if you use a default template that comes with an app. Like wordpress. they could never penalize for that.  beyond that, anyone who says they know is lying. True. The best stealth is to blend in with the crowd.
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"Everything that can be counted does not necessarily count; everything that counts cannot necessarily be counted." -- Albert Einstein
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« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2012, 11:10:42 AM » |
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>True. The best stealth is to blend in with the crowd.
Absolutely. Over the years I've been part of a lot of discussions about seo fingerprints -particularly with the rise of cms. I've always stuck to the position that you had to look like every other Wal-mart shopper. If/when you DO choose to break from the pack in favor of a particularly diabolical exploit, you'd better have a great, STUPID (looking) reason available to provide cover. Being overly arts-y on a women's site, for instance, can cover the reason you chose to use images in place of (unwanted) text.
<added> I have a LOT of misgivings about using WP as a blackhat cms, nutballs. My concern is solely based on the fact that -in my old haunts- it is now the defacto standard. It seems that every time I ask about finding a freestanding script intended for some evil end, I get the "there's a WP plugin for that."
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« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2012, 02:40:31 PM » |
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Hmmm... when How To Make Money In Real Estate books hit the streets, then you know that real estate growth is essentially over.
You may be right RC.
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It is now believed, that after having lived in one compound with 3 wives and never leaving the house for 5 years, Bin Laden called the U.S. Navy Seals himself.
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« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2012, 03:08:51 PM » |
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It's sorta like Win trojans, everybody wrote those because of Win's market share. At some point, the rocket scientists are going to say, "You know, I'm thinking that any site using the WP autoblogger plugin is up to no good" and start building tools to sort out the fingerprints.
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« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2012, 09:07:25 PM » |
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It'll be in grammatics. The real rocket scientists will identify the kind of garbage that 4Eyes puts out (excellent garbage, but garbage nonetheless) and tag it that way - or simply deprecate it's importance so that it really can't be found. I think there are literally too many sites out there for Google to see WP as a footprint. It's going to have to be in the content thereof.
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It is now believed, that after having lived in one compound with 3 wives and never leaving the house for 5 years, Bin Laden called the U.S. Navy Seals himself.
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« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2012, 11:45:10 PM » |
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Oh i was just using as an example. I don't use wp. I am fully custom. But the rule still holds I think. Thought with wp, there is no resin to not use another template. Ther are like 10k of them.
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I could eat a bowl of Alphabet Soup and shit a better argument than that.
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« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2012, 11:52:55 AM » |
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> too many sites out there for Google to see WP as a footprint. It's going to have to be in the content thereof.
Or in use of very specific plugins and -possibly- a few templates. To be clear, I agree with you on basic WP and templates. But if you install a plugin that has no other function than writing fake comment streams then I think there may be a risk of being found ...not by the fake content but by the fact that the plugin generates a fingerprint somehow.
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« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2012, 12:20:29 PM » |
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>100% if you use a default template that comes with an app. >every other Wal-mart shopper
I use a cms that is no longer sold or supported. It allows you to build your own templates, (crude) scripting, etc. It'll generate any type of file extension. And it generates static. So it's safe to say that by the time I finish fleshing out a project its source code is custom; no generic cms fingerprints. However, on some of the first sites I built templates & scripts that (for that era) tried to address 100% of what I knew about on-page and on-site seo minutiae. I should add that these were white seo with a very small dash of light grey.
Man, I loved it ...until I applied it to my network of sites. The problem was that templates & scripts don't get lazy. You code 'em in and they do it every time without fail. Everything-you-know X every page = Spammy fingerprint, even if it is all legit.
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« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2012, 04:12:33 PM » |
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I just happened across this. Search on "wp-content/plugins/synonymizer/"
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« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2012, 04:54:10 PM » |
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It is now believed, that after having lived in one compound with 3 wives and never leaving the house for 5 years, Bin Laden called the U.S. Navy Seals himself.
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