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« on: November 22, 2010, 04:00:49 PM »

Title says it all really.  Sorry if this has been discussed before.

I use FreeBSD on the server and OS X on the laptop.  However I've been considering using Slackware again for some things because as soon as you go outside the ports system on FreeBSD things start to get hairy. I don't have much experience with other flavours of *nix.
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« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2010, 09:42:28 PM »

I've done little FreeBSD, have always rather been a *nix guy. Personally like Fedora, but only really because it was the first one to get my attention about 10 years ago as RedHat 6. Since I am almost entirely a console guy, it's Gnome when I need it but otherwise, it's just the kernel. I'd be curious if there really were much difference between distros at that level - never thought there really would be.

I've thought a lot about going FreeBSD more, but just have not given it the time.
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« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2010, 07:10:11 AM »

Ubuntu 10.10 for me. They have built-in a lot of great stuff that makes it great overall linux distro for almost any kinda situation. Of course if you want pure performance, then there's probably better alternatives available.
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« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2010, 03:20:47 PM »

Yeah I would probably use Ubuntu if was going to set up a desktop.  Maybe not so much for a server until the offering is a bit more mature...

I was talking to an admin at my host today and he was saying that they use Debian stable for most things and occasionally CentOS. 

I have been trying to build various versions of FFMpeg on my server (for watermarking videos) for the last few days and it's a total nightmare.  The version of FFMpeg in ports doesn't allow you to watermark vids.  Trying to compile an older version or the latest svn version, which do allow you to watermark vids, just ain't working.  I'm sure if I was still on nice, simple Slackware I could have built it the first try...
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« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2010, 01:08:12 AM »

Yeah I would probably use Ubuntu if was going to set up a desktop.  Maybe not so much for a server until the offering is a bit more mature...
What do you mean by this? Ubuntu Server has been around for quite some time now and if you look at what 10.10 offers, it has a pretty great package with many proven solutions.

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I have been trying to build various versions of FFMpeg on my server (for watermarking videos) for the last few days and it's a total nightmare.  The version of FFMpeg in ports doesn't allow you to watermark vids.  Trying to compile an older version or the latest svn version, which do allow you to watermark vids, just ain't working.  I'm sure if I was still on nice, simple Slackware I could have built it the first try...
Yeah, building anything in Linux is always pain in the ass. Every other time you get this dependencies hell where in order to install X you need to install Y which requires X to be installed. Then you try to force install and when that doesn't work you are basically spending rest of the day fighting with the system.
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« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2010, 10:42:10 PM »

Ubuntu 10x client - Fedora server.  Ubuntu for it's "Linux for humans" approach to the desktop and Fedora for its PHP and other LAMP server compatibility benefits.
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« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2010, 09:36:40 PM »

i use arch on desktop and ubuntu on server.

despite arch being bleeding edge, i've had fewer problems than when i used ubuntu, and rolling releases are the shit. it's nice to be up to date all the time without big upgrades.

i just got burned with the recent upgrade to python 3 though.

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« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2010, 10:58:34 PM »

the one that i have to spend the least amount of energy understanding.

osx *.*

 because i can 'get it' without any POWER take off.

plus many other things on of them on of my favorites is:

  add a new user, set up vnc , switch users, forget about it go on about your business.

then vnc into the osx(second user port) and use the computer simultaneously with the primary user... unnoticed..

try that on any other distro.... with little or no secret sauce.

 there are many other 'plug n play' coolies that osx has that i dont have to know anything about to take advantage of.

not really too worried about knowing that stuff ...
 i see the cloud and a team of nerds handling all that for me in the future...

i have wasted *SO* much time comparing them all that could have been better spent just coding .... is it really important in the future to know how to do *nix stuff or would your time be better spent developing applications in a Paas or SaaS cloud environment like Salesforce/APEX, which can be done from the shittiest windows xp machine with less than a gig of ram?!?... is there any money in knowing how to do unix?
 
 cant you make more money for your time doing amazon, or salesforce or something from an agnostic client?

perfect example of from kurdt x depends on y depends on x eating the snake on the opposite side infinite buttfuck loop... HOURS on stuff like that and little to no help sometimes except to just hack away at it with most *nix...  Dont even make me bring up the test run copy of solaris i got from sun... im still having nightmares.

seems like a waste of time to build your house on such shifty ground.




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« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2010, 01:41:08 PM »

>which can be done from the shittiest windows xp machine with less than a gig of ram

http://www.geteasypeasy.com/

Formerly Ubuntu Eee.

I have no other long-term experience with any of the other distros, though I've loaded one or two up over the years.

For an XP user, easypeasy required the least learning curve. I'd highly recommend it for your "crap laptop" --the one that you take on the road but wouldn't cry if someone stole it.  Been using it sporadically for well over a year now on a woefully underpowered Asus netbook. I've used it daily over the past 2 weeks and it's managing its module updates just fine.
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« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2010, 03:22:56 PM »

craptop? lol

The last time i tried that on the craptop i bricked it... thankfully inside the newegg warranty period.... something about a hidden partition, murphy and (the constant variable of me... lol)

I have two eee's  and if something ever goes wrong (i.e. went too far down the porno tube road...lol) i boot up hit something like f9 and it restores to factory... keep all my data in the cloud..

one in the glove box next to the inverter and one on the bedside table plugged into a mybook and a big flat screen monitor...bluetooth mouse and keyboard and  its replaced the tv....

Aside from running firefox  i dont really do much else with it.

pspad, phpdesigner2008, ubuntu jeos virtual machine, bulletproof ftp, wampserver, utorrent, bitvise tunnelier for sftp, putty  and most importantly the full support
of the web... all flash, java, etc updates... had zero problems with it.

Ive been piddling with salesforce tuts and just cant waste horsepower with the java 1.x.y not being fully supported and blah blahs....

Does OS really matter though? As long as you can get the full web in all its intended pixels and flash/java libs?

my point being in the future will much more than firefox and headacheless java support be necessary if the cloud goes the way i think it will? 

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« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2010, 02:29:50 PM »

As a basically one man show dirty spammer, I think unix is still important to know.  My main automation servers are all admined by me, mainly so I'm the only one with the root password.  I'm not going to let some random admin anywhere near all the cool stuff I have worked so long and hard to produce.  And it's frequently easier / faster to just set things up yourself rather than waiting for someone else to do it.
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« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2010, 11:57:16 AM »

Used to love me some Slack.

At the moment, BSD variants or CentOS on the servers, whatever on the desktop. I'm not terribly picky about what's running on my desktop as long as it's free. I use bash for nearly anything important. GUIs are still very limited in what they can do for a person like me.
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« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2010, 11:04:16 PM »

I only use debian stable on servers, no matter if it's a small vps or full dedi, it does the job well. I've used most top distros on the desktop, whatever works for you, ubuntu/mint/debian are kind of the same thing, each with different 'user friendliness' levels, then there's fedora that I quit some time ago due to very bad experience with the updates (but it generally works just fine). I wouldn't recommend anything else unless you have time and want to tweak things. Then I would go with arch linux or gentoo. Beware that arch linux does not have gpg signed packages and gentoo will take a lot of time to install/update/manage because everything is compiled from source. They are both excellent distros.
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« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2011, 09:08:39 AM »

Thought I'd throw in my  here ...
 
I've been using Debian for my father-in-law's server for several years now and it's been VERY stable.  At home, I've tried a number of desktop flavors and keep coming back to Ubuntu - just can't seem to go wrong with it. 

Recently, I installed Ubuntu XFCE on a "craptop" (love that) and the wireless connections are flawless while the performance is much better than a more bloated version.

That said, I think I'm intrigued with the easypeasy option.  I may have to look into that.
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