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« on: May 13, 2009, 09:01:03 AM »

is it me or netbeans doesn't have a designer mode ?

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« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2009, 09:39:16 AM »

Um, I'm no Java expert, but isn't net beans a methodology, not an IDE?
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« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2009, 09:44:10 AM »

Someone from Syndichait recommend me NetBeans with php extension ....

What good IDE do you recommend perk for linux ?  Undecided
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« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2009, 09:49:36 AM »

For Linux... you mean for PHP or something?

Eclipse is probably your best bet if you require such a thing. I use BBEdit for my Mac, but it's a text editor++, not an IDE. Gave IDEs up a long time ago. I'm also a big VI guy. Not much need for anything else. IDEs confuse me.
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« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2009, 10:02:00 AM »

For Linux... you mean for PHP or something?

Eclipse is probably your best bet if you require such a thing. I use BBEdit for my Mac, but it's a text editor++, not an IDE. Gave IDEs up a long time ago. I'm also a big VI guy. Not much need for anything else. IDEs confuse me.
yes ... for php especially !

I also like to write my code in notepad++ but when I make a template it's hard to make it in notepad Smiley
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« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2009, 05:49:59 AM »

do you mean a WYSIWYG editor like dreamweaver?

i has a good designer mode for java swing apps but i don't know about php.
i know it has a toolbox of snippets for html but i don't think it has an html designer like dreamweaver.

if your just looking for an ide make sure the netbeans you download is the right one. they have a php bundle that doesn't have all the java stuff.

if you want to try eclipse i recommend you just use aptana - again make you sure you download the right bundle.

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here is a WYSIWYG editor: http://kompozer.net/

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sudo aptitude install kompozer
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« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2009, 06:35:07 AM »

geany does php code completion and isnt as heavy
as eclipse or netbeans... i think both eclipse and
netbeans attempt to do php code exploration but
not very successfully.   The best php solution
IMO would be to run a windows virtual and
use phpdesigner2008.  Has 'step through' feature
that actually works and will work on a remote server.

netbeans and eclipse have 'step through' but they
are so bogged down and complex its hardly worth
the advantage the ide functionality brings.


phpdesigner2008 has code exploration, completion,
breakpoints and is a very lightweight application.

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« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2009, 06:47:37 AM »

do you mean a WYSIWYG editor like dreamweaver?

i has a good designer mode for java swing apps but i don't know about php.
i know it has a toolbox of snippets for html but i don't think it has an html designer like dreamweaver.

if your just looking for an ide make sure the netbeans you download is the right one. they have a php bundle that doesn't have all the java stuff.

if you want to try eclipse i recommend you just use aptana - again make you sure you download the right bundle.

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here is a WYSIWYG editor: http://kompozer.net/

Code:
sudo aptitude install kompozer
I've downloaded the right netbeans php bundle ! let's see what kompozer !

geany does php code completion and isnt as heavy
as eclipse or netbeans... i think both eclipse and
netbeans attempt to do php code exploration but
not very successfully.   The best php solution
IMO would be to run a windows virtual and
use phpdesigner2008.  Has 'step through' feature
that actually works and will work on a remote server.

netbeans and eclipse have 'step through' but they
are so bogged down and complex its hardly worth
the advantage the ide functionality brings.


phpdesigner2008 has code exploration, completion,
breakpoints and is a very lightweight application.


i've installed a windowz virtual machine ! i will try and geany too see what's suite me best !  Nerd
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« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2009, 07:17:26 AM »

kompozer keeps exiting ... and crashing
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« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2009, 07:55:58 AM »

ya geany is about the best gui you can get for linux IMO..

seriously though, phpdesigner 2008 for windows is what
your looking for.
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« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2009, 06:32:27 AM »

Don't use a WYSIWYG editor like Dreamweaver.

It will turn you into a useless tech-retard.
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« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2009, 12:31:15 PM »

^i concur.
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« Reply #12 on: May 15, 2009, 12:33:42 PM »

Don't use a WYSIWYG editor like Dreamweaver.

It will turn you into a useless tech-retard.
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« Reply #13 on: May 15, 2009, 03:22:11 PM »

WYSIWYG editors often generate ugly, bloated, even error ridden code.
learn html and css.
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« Reply #14 on: May 15, 2009, 05:54:25 PM »

WYSIWYG editors often generate ugly, bloated, even error ridden code.
learn html and css.
i know about 80% html and 60% css  Sarcasm
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