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[perkiset]

OS X fucks up my workflow.  I've become quite accustomed to having certain available paths to get things done and Windows allows me to do things the way I like to do them, not force me into the way it thinks I should be doing things.

This is a common problem. PinkHat went kicking and screaming to OSX because she had excellent muscle-memory for working Windows and honestly, made it sing (such as Windows can sing). However I got tired of being tech support for a crappy OS that seemed to modify itself nightly ... and I could never seem to get her far enough away from the likes of JasonD and such ergo, I was constantly soft repairing her machine.

Once she relaxed and stopped trying to make OSX be Windows though, she really started to take off and her net throughput is considerably more than it ever was. The investment in time was WELL worth it.

[rcjordan]

>around virtual desktops

I have no doubt that .002% of the desktop population could make use of that, perk.  Luckily for MS, when I get involved in a project I tend to ramp my OCD tendencies and go into tunnel-vision mode (irony intended).

>multiple screens

Always hated the bezels. Never could get beyond that. So I went 42" on a pc with an hdmi port video card a few years back. Fairly rare monitor size back then. Yes, only .002% of the desktop population could make use of it but 99.99% damn sure lusted for it.

As for the MAC, I'll cede that the OS is superior. My brother-in-law was a cultist for nearly 2 decades.  But in the end, I stay with W because of the availability of 3rd-party apps, free or otherwise.

[isthisthingon]

"The upgrade market for average PC owners is dead."

Good blog post.  More than just about Vista and its problems.

 

VERY good blog post.  It touches on an issue that runs far deeper than IT and even macro economics: fear-based control. 

"But the rate of such changes that are relevant to average people has plummeted in the last decade. Graphical interfaces, multitasking, SimCity, porn, email, shopping, and dating sold a lot more new computers than nearly anything we’ve come up with since 2000 except malware. (I honestly believe that malware carried computer sales for most of the last decade. That only worked because we’ve taught people, with a combination of misinformation and omission, two great lies: that computers slow down over time, and that the only way to fix a malware infestation is to buy a new computer.)
...
We’re still burning their trust, time, and money, but we’re offering much less in return. It shouldn’t surprise any of us that they stopped caring."

 

[perkiset]

But in the end, I stay with W because of the availability of 3rd-party apps, free or otherwise.

In Nov I'll show you how to get around that quite easily and permanently, if you are so inclined.

[isthisthingon]

But in the end, I stay with W because of the availability of 3rd-party apps, free or otherwise.

In Nov I'll show you how to get around that quite easily and permanently, if you are so inclined.

Native PC games inside a Mac?

[perkiset]

Oh absolutely. But the speed at which they play will probably not be up to your standards - although I cannot confirm that either way. Why don't you bring something or tell me what to load so I could have it ready and we could do some testing when you get here?

So let me quote an Apple commercial - "When you're ready to compromise, call me."

[rcjordan]

>get around

OS images, I assume?  Yeah, I'd like a look. Seems I have one specialty app (no longer supported) that will likely always run best on XP.


>fear-based

Ever notice how much general marketing is now fear-based, itto?  EVERY cell package touts unlimited minutes so you won't get that dreaded UNEXPECTED billing.  And the extended warranty racket... hell, that entire industry depends on it.

[perkiset]

Seems I have one specialty app (no longer supported) that will likely always run best on XP.

The single best reason to get into virtuals, regardless of the host OS.

[rcjordan]

Seen this, I suppose.

VMWare Player v3 has a release candidate. (Supposedly:) Ability to create virtual machines, OpenGL support in guest machines, ALSA support on Linux guests, ThinPrint printing, Aero Glass in Vista, Windows 7 support, and multiple monitor support.

http://communities.vmware.com/community/beta/player

[isthisthingon]

Oh absolutely. But the speed at which they play will probably not be up to your standards - although I cannot confirm that either way. Why don't you bring something or tell me what to load so I could have it ready and we could do some testing when you get here?

So let me quote an Apple commercial - "When you're ready to compromise, call me."

I don't have anything cracked that would push any limits.  Burnout Ultimate has been fun lately and Enemy Territory: Quake Wars is always fun.  But both have very restrictive licensing and would require a new copy to install and run on another machine/VM.

Anyone have something "demo-able" like um... Crysis (cough)?

[vsloathe]

You guys and your fucking GUIs and mice. Mice are for gaming, which is why there's no point in owning one that's less than 1200 DPI (pref 1500+). Using a mouse otherwise just slows me down to kretin speed.

Although I understand your sentiment I think it's a little overstated, at least for me.  I'm perfectly fine with no mouse but tell me it doesn't come in handy when moving data from various deep path locations.  Yes you can organize everything just the way you like it and make it efficient on your PC.  But what about having to work with LAN locations?  I was in a blended Windows/Unix shop that had 5 flavors of Unix.  Even the best Unix keymasters couldn't match the speed of GUI file management and would grumble along as they used xWindows to keep up.

But mice for gaming?  Gaming is just another user experience.  Mine is 1800dpi since I'm picky about smoothness and love sniping the eyeballs of my enemy.  But vs honestly can't you understand any benefit beyond gaming?  Say, art for example?

I don't know man, I just mount SMB shares from the command line. I can't be arsed to learn someone else's GUI for mapping network shares when it takes 3 seconds of grepping through man pages and then about 20 more seconds to bang out a one-liner to map the drive and transfer the files. And that's if I HAVE to use Windows file protocols. I prefer to just install openSSH/cygwin/whatever on the Windows box and SCP. I don't trust SAMBA or CIFS (not because of the open source engineers who write the code, I have a lot of respect for them). That is, if I'm forced to forgo my first solution, which is always "format it and install a real OS".

[isthisthingon]

You guys and your fucking GUIs and mice. Mice are for gaming, which is why there's no point in owning one that's less than 1200 DPI (pref 1500+). Using a mouse otherwise just slows me down to kretin speed.

Although I understand your sentiment I think it's a little overstated, at least for me.  I'm perfectly fine with no mouse but tell me it doesn't come in handy when moving data from various deep path locations.  Yes you can organize everything just the way you like it and make it efficient on your PC.  But what about having to work with LAN locations?  I was in a blended Windows/Unix shop that had 5 flavors of Unix.  Even the best Unix keymasters couldn't match the speed of GUI file management and would grumble along as they used xWindows to keep up.

But mice for gaming?  Gaming is just another user experience.  Mine is 1800dpi since I'm picky about smoothness and love sniping the eyeballs of my enemy.  But vs honestly can't you understand any benefit beyond gaming?  Say, art for example?

I don't know man, I just mount SMB shares from the command line. I can't be arsed to learn someone else's GUI for mapping network shares when it takes 3 seconds of grepping through man pages and then about 20 more seconds to bang out a one-liner to map the drive and transfer the files. And that's if I HAVE to use Windows file protocols. I prefer to just install openSSH/cygwin/whatever on the Windows box and SCP. I don't trust SAMBA or CIFS (not because of the open source engineers who write the code, I have a lot of respect for them). That is, if I'm forced to forgo my first solution, which is always "format it and install a real OS".

LOL - you're a command line maniac vs.

[perkiset]

Do you remember a certain geek that worked with us circa '90 that thought assembly was easy and excel macros were hard? Similar disease 

Also - were you with us in the mid 80s when we had a client that had all Macs in the office, and they all loved it except one of the analysts that simply could not get her arms around "these charts and graphs?" "Give me a row of numbers" she would say "and I can make sense of it. But charts just confuse me."

Takes all kinds

[vsloathe]

Yeah I'm not big on charts and graphs either. Drives my boss nuts sometimes. Why would I need to be when I can bang out a quick perl or shell script to give me everything I need?

[rcjordan]

>assembly was easy

Assembly sucked.  Then someone gave me the machine language code.

Charts -simple charts- OK.

Macros. For some reason, I hate macros.