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« on: April 23, 2007, 07:24:25 PM »

... see who is logged into a computer OTHER than the primary user?

I've got a client's computer that continually says "There are users connected to this computer ... " when I shut the machine down. Even when it is on my private net, behind a firewall and as far as I can tell there is nothing shared!

I don't think it's really doing anything, but the client is a doctor and as such, totally panicked.

Any help appreciated...

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« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2007, 07:25:20 PM »

... symptom: it seems to happen after the machine has been "slept" or stood by...
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« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2007, 07:39:44 PM »

start/control panel/administrative tools/computer management/shared folders/shares, sessions, open files

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« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2007, 07:53:26 PM »

Thanks TD!

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« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2007, 09:16:58 PM »

If its not "files" being shared, but a TS session, and its when you are terminal serviced into the machine, some versions of windows will report that, even when YOU are the session, and YOU are the one rebooting it. But if your all patched up, then that shouldnt be it.

what was it?
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« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2007, 09:29:47 PM »

np, and I'm not a windoze boy ok?

lol, this makes me think of our (meaning lots of us, not just you and me Perk) discussions over languages, are they dead, are they dinosaurs, which one is "the best". At the end of the day I've used a hell of a lot of different OSs, been exposed to and dabbled in a lot of languages, used literally 100s (1000s?) of apps and, at the end of the day, who cares?

"The warrior makes use of what is at hand" Sometimes the job dictates the tool, sometimes the environment, sometimes economic factors, sometimes legacy. What works, works, no matter what the flavour. It is nice to be in a position to dictate what should be used, but that is a luxury we are not afforded all the time. Use the tools that are available and learn about what you have to work with.

I know a lot about Windows because of my exposure to it through necessity and through sheer brute force of numbers, doesn't mean I love it, doesn't mean I hate it, it just is. LOL, maybe we should move this into the Tao section although I think that sentiment is more buddhist.

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« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2007, 09:36:31 PM »

Aaaarrrrghhhh %#$% f$%32 Goddamm$%#@ %$#.

I can't reproduce it now.

I am going to that office tomorrow and I'll try to reproduce the conditions that she first had the experience. It was also behind a firewall and secure. But a question: If I'm not sharing anything <that I can see BTW - I have no idea if I'm doing this right anymore> what else could be connected? This is a brand new Dell with XP Pro. Checking services, there is one called Terminal Services, it's set to Manual start but interestingly it's always on, immediately after power up - I'm going to speculate that this is because some dependent app fired it up. There's no way the Doc could've fucked this machine so quickly (about 3 days).

Checking sharing and permissions for the Shared Folder it is not shared either.

I think that you're onto sumthin NBs and I speculate that its a shitty rather than interloper.

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« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2007, 09:40:42 PM »

doesn't mean I love it
I love windows.
I particularly love IE6.

But just because i love it does not mean i use it myself  ROFLMAO
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« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2007, 09:45:39 PM »

np, and I'm not a windoze boy ok?
Windoz Ass Kisser TD  ROFLMAO
KIDDING. I'm on my way to bed over here & you're prolly just getting ramped up to flame me all day while I'm gone Wink

lol, this makes me think of our (meaning lots of us, not just you and me Perk) discussions over languages, are they dead, are they dinosaurs, which one is "the best". At the end of the day I've used a hell of a lot of different OSs, been exposed to and dabbled in a lot of languages, used literally 100s (1000s?) of apps and, at the end of the day, who cares?

"The warrior makes use of what is at hand" Sometimes the job dictates the tool, sometimes the environment, sometimes economic factors, sometimes legacy. What works, works, no matter what the flavour. It is nice to be in a position to dictate what should be used, but that is a luxury we are not afforded all the time. Use the tools that are available and learn about what you have to work with.

I know a lot about Windows because of my exposure to it through necessity and through sheer brute force of numbers, doesn't mean I love it, doesn't mean I hate it, it just is. LOL, maybe we should move this into the Tao section although I think that sentiment is more buddhist.
I agree, best tool for the job. I've been a PC boy since the early 80s, did a delightful stint as a Mac user for a couple years, but then made my flow on programming for Windoz from 3.1 on. I've been working in Solaris and Linux for the last 6 years and delightfully switched my personal machine to a Mac about 20 months ago. I've got no truck at all with Windoz folks... just my personal bias against Windows itself.

All that being said, Jeebers man - the Tao, buddhism and Windoz all in a single paragraph? You're gonna fit in just fine here  ROFLMAO

He could've become a mod if he'd just called this thread gay and told me to fuck off
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« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2007, 10:02:33 PM »

There are actually a few things, that it could be. gimme a buzz tomorrow if you want.

the short version is that probably something is opening a file and keeping it open.
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a piece of software is "logging in" as a authoritative account to perform permission based actions. This is a little unlikely, but I do know alot of Dr software sucks bad, so who knows.
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« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2007, 01:49:36 AM »

But a question: If I'm not sharing anything <that I can see BTW - I have no idea if I'm doing this right anymore> what else could be connected?

Could be, as nuts suggests, an errant app either not closing handles or not logging out when the machine shuts down. It could also be something connecting to an administrative share (//machinename/c$, d$, etc.) or and IPC share such as a distributed backup app (backup server backs up clients scenario).

Anyway, good luck tracking it down and happy ANZAC day for tomorrow everyone.

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« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2007, 04:11:25 PM »

OK - day 2, no repeat of the behavior. The only thing different (I believe) is the number of and order of programs she ran. I am thinking that you folks are on it and it is a program that's latched onto something and won't let go... she has a bunch of Remote Desktop icons on her desktop already... she does not know the password for any of the locations she's trying to get into, but it does connect and wait for a login... I'm wondering if there's something in all of that which might've confused the box.

Anyhoo, I'm gonna consider it closed until it rears its ugly head again... thanks again boys

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« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2007, 07:16:12 PM »

ah......

was the error message/warning told to you from memory by her?
if so, and she aint the brightest computer user, what you just said answered the question.

she had a TS session open, but minimized probably, even if she wasnt successfully logged in. it would give a warning that you have open user sessions, or something like that, and they will be disconnected upon logout/reboot/whatevershewasdoing.
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« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2007, 09:27:08 PM »

... even if she was the one terminalling into somewhere else?

And yes, the vast majority of the instances were from her memory - the only was that I saw was when I first booted her machine up... but upon reflection, I cannot tell you if it was a clean boot or unsleep kind of thing... if it was an unsleep and she had done something like this it would fit your pattern...

... although my head gets loopy thinking that the problem was she had a user open on her machine when she was a actually trying to log into another but it didn't happen and the network changed and she ... oh fuckit.
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« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2007, 10:17:57 PM »

If you have the option checked, rdesktop will connect to your local drives from the remote machine whether you have them shared or not, under options/local resources in RD client. You could see if any are set up to connect these automatically.

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