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« on: January 16, 2012, 11:12:51 PM » |
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why is that even big companies including google is so fearful abt it ? seems like wikipedia,scribe,reddit,craiglist is goona make 1day blackout showing its protest against the bill. why does it become threat to them  |
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« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2012, 08:48:07 AM » |
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the short version is this. 2 reasons as far as I understand it.
1) Because they are content collectors that display content from uncontrolled sources, they are concerned about liability. Like piratebay, which is obvious, they could be nailed for providing links to piracy content. This would mean they either need to add a review process for content which is too costly and impossible in some cases, or they need a war chest for getting fined.
2) the main reason is the tracking requirements. Although it keeps changing, the requirements that they log all visitor info and behavior, is pretty much impossible. This also means that google, who maintains that they don't collect personal data, would now have to. It's a hollow argument that people would go to other engines, since they would all have to adhere to the same rules, but, it does mean they would need to add the costly infrastructure to keep that data. And that now exposes them to security and privacy violations. For example, what if Anonymous gets a hold of that data? Oh looky, the CEO of HP watches midget porn! bam, lawsuit.
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I could eat a bowl of Alphabet Soup and shit a better argument than that.
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« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2012, 11:25:35 AM » |
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thx perky and nb.. are u in US ? if so wot u think the chances for passing the bill ?
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« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2012, 12:16:49 PM » |
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Yes, we are both US. I'd have to say that there's grass roots hatred of it, but it's backed by some REALLY big money. That's why the network is so alive about it - there is a lot of momentum to pass it/them. The blackout sites like Wiki are vehemently opposed to it because, much like the "Patriot Act" the name is a misdirection. It will actually give large corporations and IP holders the ability to do really shitty things, rather than "take care of the little guy." I considered blacking out the Cache for the day but our traffic is not that high  Thought it'd be better to talk about it than follow the blackout folk. |
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It is now believed, that after having lived in one compound with 3 wives and never leaving the house for 5 years, Bin Laden called the U.S. Navy Seals himself.
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« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2012, 03:37:23 PM » |
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« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2012, 03:43:10 PM » |
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In this age of Toe The Frickin' Line and I'm More Conservative Than You that is a breath of fresh air. Cheers RC
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It is now believed, that after having lived in one compound with 3 wives and never leaving the house for 5 years, Bin Laden called the U.S. Navy Seals himself.
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« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2012, 03:56:39 PM » |
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>More Conservative
The liberal/Dems have been strongly behind SOPA/PIPA and seem to be be slower to bail ...which is why I suspect the Repubs are executing a tactical withdrawal.
Best quote:
“Why is it that when Republicans and Democrats need to solve the budget and the deficit, there’s deadlock, but when Hollywood lobbyists pay them $94 million dollars to write legislation, people from both sides of the aisle line up to co-sponsor it?”
–Reddit Founder Alexis Ohanian on CNBC
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perkiset
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« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2012, 04:17:27 PM » |
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“Why is it that when Republicans and Democrats need to solve the budget and the deficit, there’s deadlock, but when Hollywood lobbyists pay them $94 million dollars to write legislation, people from both sides of the aisle line up to co-sponsor it?”
–Reddit Founder Alexis Ohanian on CNBC
Ahhhmm, "Duh." I think we'll see more soon, and then it'll be "I was out first. No I was. No I was." And some will claim that it's an example of bipartisanship  |
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It is now believed, that after having lived in one compound with 3 wives and never leaving the house for 5 years, Bin Laden called the U.S. Navy Seals himself.
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« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2012, 11:06:30 PM » |
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Best quote:
“Why is it that when Republicans and Democrats need to solve the budget and the deficit, there’s deadlock, but when Hollywood lobbyists pay them $94 million dollars to write legislation, people from both sides of the aisle line up to co-sponsor it?”
–Reddit Founder Alexis Ohanian on CNBC
Deficit vs 94mil... Guess its plain vanilla simple...  |
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« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2012, 08:58:44 AM » |
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« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2012, 09:16:06 AM » |
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I do no think the the Megaupload raid was retribution, as it was done via "old school" legal methods which require some time to get in order. That said, I expect the shutdown procedure may have been nearly ready and it was moved forward a day or two just as a show of force.
BUT it is precisely because cases like this require TIME and (some) due process that they are proposing SOPA/PITA ...they want to fast-track this process.
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« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2012, 09:25:51 AM » |
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 brilliant, RC.
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