|
Phaėton
|
 |
« on: August 27, 2010, 06:59:40 AM » |
|
gmail.com/call
Well you can make and receive calls for free from gmail.. so much for the voip to hand held
cell phone skype on iphone war ... google is charging the front lines and monopolizing how
we talk to each other....
I guess skype can go bite a big one, im not renewing now... i can have unlimited free numbers
with unlimited in and out going calls?
Remember when you could put off calling your relatives till sunday night cause it was 'cheaper'?
So now everyone can get a voicemail and unlimited in/out calling for free .... and anyone can ensnare you for free with a voicemail. Casting a spell on you to check it. Wasting the time you already spent when you didnt answer the phone.
Wasting the time you are gonna spend listening to it. And again answering the idiotic question?
"Did you get my last voicemail?" Time waster again. Which voicemail>? because from my perspective
the last one i got is always the last voicemail i got.... whether i have checked it or not and heard
a possible new one... to me my reference is @thelastmailichecked.... so now i have to tell you the last
voicemail i got, (add time waste factor to other voicemail account that caused it and some to this one)
and then you can tell me your message again since you do have a new message. How many times have
you gotten a call and this was the conversation... A repeat of already gone time and nothing to show for it.
SO foreach voicemail it takes up 3 times the amount of time had it taken because even
when they leave a voicemail you have to talk about the same information again.
And the economy spirals deeper down... better leave my broker a voicemail to sell
skype .... or maybe i should text or email him so he can work at mcdonalds with all the
time he saves not playing voicemail games and profit from the hours in his day.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
When I was your age we used to walk to the TV to change the channel.... _̴ı̴̴̡̡̡ ̡͌l̡̡̡ ̡͌l̡*̡̡ ̴̡ı̴̴̡ ̡̡͡|̲̲̲͡͡͡ ̲▫̲͡ ̲̲̲͡͡π̲̲͡͡ ̲̲͡▫̲̲͡͡ ̲|̡̡̡ ̡ ̴̡ı̴̡̡
|
|
|
|
perkiset
|
|
« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2010, 08:10:10 AM » |
|
Hmm, good data. I'm just starting to play/prep for the move to all VOIP and this is not encouraging.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
It is now believed, that after having lived in one compound with 3 wives and never leaving the house for 5 years, Bin Laden called the U.S. Navy Seals himself.
|
|
|
|
Phaėton
|
|
« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2010, 08:28:20 AM » |
|
You can even listen to a voicemail while its being recorded... and pick up ...
something ive really missed about the old school setup.
Google voice with incoming call support now is as good as any phone switch
you can record calls, route based on config, to several different phones...
I think the phone just died and is in communication media hell with the newspaper.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
When I was your age we used to walk to the TV to change the channel.... _̴ı̴̴̡̡̡ ̡͌l̡̡̡ ̡͌l̡*̡̡ ̴̡ı̴̴̡ ̡̡͡|̲̲̲͡͡͡ ̲▫̲͡ ̲̲̲͡͡π̲̲͡͡ ̲̲͡▫̲̲͡͡ ̲|̡̡̡ ̡ ̴̡ı̴̡̡
|
|
|
|
perkiset
|
|
« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2010, 11:12:04 AM » |
|
Phone is close to dead. Heard a report the other day that about 61% of Americans are currently considering abandoning wired service. Although this did not stipulate networked service over telco (ie., Skype et al over cell service) I think this clearly outlines the trend. Until data becomes truly ubiquitous then cell service will survive, but I think as soon as we are all bathed in network rays then VOIP will no longer be for the smart and forward, but the only real choice.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
It is now believed, that after having lived in one compound with 3 wives and never leaving the house for 5 years, Bin Laden called the U.S. Navy Seals himself.
|
|
|
|
kurdt
|
|
« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2010, 12:36:09 PM » |
|
In Finland I don't know a single household with wired phone anymore. Families usually have one home cellphone that's been treated like traditional wired phone but nobody actually uses old wired telephones anymore. Almost everybody including kids have their own phones so that home phone is very rarely used.
Regarding Gmail calls.. I will stick with Skype. I really don't trust Google even with my emails so how could I trust them with calls. I bet their TOS says somewhere that all calls are stored and analyzed.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
I met god and he had nothing to say to me.
|
|
|
|
rcjordan
|
|
« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2010, 01:20:08 PM » |
|
>data ubiquitous Getting closer. Virgin (uses Sprint backbone) just gutted their rate card and announced $40 no contract, truly (supposedly) unlimited data plans. You can go mifi or dongle route. http://www.virginmobileusa.com/mobile-broadband/>voip Louise has had the office pbx on the voip host for about 2 months now. Everything is working great. |
|
|
|
« Last Edit: August 27, 2010, 01:23:27 PM by rcjordan »
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
nop_90
|
|
« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2010, 06:59:57 PM » |
|
Depends on how skype handles it
remember gmail vs yahoo mail
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
nutballs
|
|
« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2010, 01:30:51 PM » |
|
In Finland I don't know a single household with wired phone anymore. Families usually have one home cellphone that's been treated like traditional wired phone but nobody actually uses old wired telephones anymore. Almost everybody including kids have their own phones so that home phone is very rarely used.
Yea but thats because you guys spend your money on booze instead of copper wire  |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
I could eat a bowl of Alphabet Soup and shit a better argument than that.
|
|
|
|
isthisthingon
|
|
« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2010, 09:57:09 PM » |
|
I really don't trust Google even with my emails so how could I trust them with calls. I bet their TOS says somewhere that all calls are stored and analyzed. What's to trust? Assume Skype mines your voip data for up-selling potential even if they're not doing it currently - according to them. Once you assume Skype and Google will use your voice data to make more money however they see fit, what "trust" issue remains? |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
I would love to change the world, but they won't give me the source code.
|
|
|
|
kurdt
|
|
« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2010, 01:06:45 AM » |
|
What's to trust? Assume Skype mines your voip data for up-selling potential even if they're not doing it currently - according to them. Once you assume Skype and Google will use your voice data to make more money however they see fit, what "trust" issue remains? Well, the other company has a history of conducting illegal monitoring and violating user's trust and the other company has not. I'm now talking about normal phonecalls, not business calls. If you truly wanted to go secure, you would have to build your own VOIP solution and not use some free service found on the internet. Even if they both mined my calls, I would still want Skype to do it rather than Google but I guess that's just personal preference equaling to with or without lubricant. |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
I met god and he had nothing to say to me.
|
|
|
|
Phaėton
|
|
« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2010, 04:17:14 AM » |
|
a pimps love is very different from that of a square Collins! Please stick to the technicals. |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
When I was your age we used to walk to the TV to change the channel.... _̴ı̴̴̡̡̡ ̡͌l̡̡̡ ̡͌l̡*̡̡ ̴̡ı̴̴̡ ̡̡͡|̲̲̲͡͡͡ ̲▫̲͡ ̲̲̲͡͡π̲̲͡͡ ̲̲͡▫̲̲͡͡ ̲|̡̡̡ ̡ ̴̡ı̴̡̡
|
|
|
|
isthisthingon
|
|
« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2010, 01:06:48 PM » |
|
... but I guess that's just personal preference equaling to with or without lubricant.
  a pimps love is very different from that of a square Collins! Please stick to the technicals. Right, just let me wrap this up. Now....... (slide, slide, slide, slide, slide) JESUS Collins!! |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
I would love to change the world, but they won't give me the source code.
|
|
|
|
Phaėton
|
|
« Reply #12 on: August 29, 2010, 08:55:07 PM » |
|
Its a fascinating world though.. hahaha
So if they are getting away with illegal monitoring and they seem to have won the race whether
or not i think the apple UI is pretty wicked and a good product Google and Facebook already win
at knowing and I dont think there is anything that can stop you from assimilation unless your trading
beads for hemp about 400 years ago....
I personally don't care what they know about me, If you make up a fake name and give them
information about it...
At some point the govt will assume control (not ownshership but whats the difference) of the info...
Or the robocop future where big business ends up owning the government and the money ends up
mattering cause the govt has gone broke.
Who do you see winning the war for everyones info? Cause its gonna happen.
The question is, do you really care what these companies know about you and
will them knowing everything change what kinds of products are available... I just
hope netflix doesnt tell the product suggestion engine and I end up with a zombie dildo.
I still cant get the fungus on the end out of my mind.
Products live or die in the free market based on sales.. if its good then great
it rises to the top... but this trend suggests to me that soon they will decide whats
best ... not the best product deliverable to a demanding market at a profitable price...
"Brawndo simply bought the FDA"
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
When I was your age we used to walk to the TV to change the channel.... _̴ı̴̴̡̡̡ ̡͌l̡̡̡ ̡͌l̡*̡̡ ̴̡ı̴̴̡ ̡̡͡|̲̲̲͡͡͡ ̲▫̲͡ ̲̲̲͡͡π̲̲͡͡ ̲̲͡▫̲̲͡͡ ̲|̡̡̡ ̡ ̴̡ı̴̡̡
|
|
|
|
isthisthingon
|
|
« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2010, 11:06:31 PM » |
|
>Who do you see winning the war for everyones info? Cause its gonna happen. I'm probably in the minority on this one, but I think the problem isn't "winning the war" at all, it's recognizing that the war isn't about exclusivity, or intellectual "property" or any other kind of exclusionary form of owning that which will produce the greatest profits. It's all about the service, trust, reputation, and real value provided. The dinosaurs of "ownership" will one day wake up to realize nobody wants what they "own" and certainly no one would pay them for access to it. As you pointed out, the distinction between control and ownership is dubious at best. People are literally incapable of evolving past the business mentality of a good produced/owned equals a good sold for some price worth the effort, and then "owned" by the purchaser. Sure, there will always be bananas and home appliances people exchange currency for. But I believe the future belongs to those who have a much broader understanding of value and how to deliver it than those who cling to artificial structures that temporarily provide compensation commensurate with their warped sense of entitlement. Clearly, Collins agrees with me |
|
|
|
Logged
|
I would love to change the world, but they won't give me the source code.
|
|
|
|
Phaėton
|
|
« Reply #14 on: August 30, 2010, 11:28:52 AM » |
|
switch to voip
Open source call center software? http://www.starpound.net@ITTO- reject the basic assumptions of civilization especially the importance of material possessions. |
|
|
|
« Last Edit: August 30, 2010, 11:31:52 AM by Phaėton »
|
Logged
|
When I was your age we used to walk to the TV to change the channel.... _̴ı̴̴̡̡̡ ̡͌l̡̡̡ ̡͌l̡*̡̡ ̴̡ı̴̴̡ ̡̡͡|̲̲̲͡͡͡ ̲▫̲͡ ̲̲̲͡͡π̲̲͡͡ ̲̲͡▫̲̲͡͡ ̲|̡̡̡ ̡ ̴̡ı̴̡̡
|
|
|
|
