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« on: March 30, 2009, 11:14:14 PM »

Okay i scraped this out of an email... and it looks like it might be actual gps
info from the sender... any thoughts on this and if its what i think
it is isnt this pretty f@king scary?   Thoughts>?

Code:
if (typeof YAHOO == "undefined") {
 var YAHOO = {};
}
YAHOO.Shortcuts = YAHOO.Shortcuts || {};
YAHOO.Shortcuts.hasSensitiveText = false;
YAHOO.Shortcuts.sensitivityType = [];
YAHOO.Shortcuts.doUlt = false;
YAHOO.Shortcuts.location = "us";
YAHOO.Shortcuts.document_id = 0;
YAHOO.Shortcuts.document_type = "";
YAHOO.Shortcuts.document_title = "";
YAHOO.Shortcuts.document_publish_date = "";
YAHOO.Shortcuts.document_author = "alpha2ajax@yahoo.com";
YAHOO.Shortcuts.document_url = "";
YAHOO.Shortcuts.document_tags = "";
YAHOO.Shortcuts.document_language = "english";
YAHOO.Shortcuts.annotationSet = {
"lw_1238428240_0": {
"text": "Midlothian, VA",
"extended": 0,
"startchar": 324,
"endchar": 337,
"start": 324,
"end": 337,
"extendedFrom": "",
"predictedCategory": "PLACE",
"predictionProbability": "0.868896",
"weight": 0.209119,
"relScore": 6.31174,
"type": ["shortcuts:/us/instance/place/destination", "shortcuts:/us/instance/place/us/town"],
"category": ["PLACE"],
"wikiId": "Midlothian,_Virginia",
"relatedWikiIds": [],
"relatedEntities": [],
"showOnClick": [],
"context": "was wondering if you could help me. I live in Midlothian, VA and I
am planning to pick up an old TV",
"metaData": {
"geoArea": "2.38849",
"geoCountry": "United States",
"geoCounty": "Chesterfield",
"geoIsoCountryCode": "US",
"geoLocation": "(-77.651283, 37.503601)",
"geoName": "Midlothian",
"geoPlaceType": "Town",
"geoState": "Virginia",
"geoStateCode": "VA",
"geoTown": "Midlothian",
"type": "shortcuts:/us/instance/place/us/town",
"visible": "true"
}
 }
};
YAHOO.Shortcuts.headerID = "1cd4bb5597f27c39573a2b3ea64295a8";



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« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2009, 06:31:49 AM »

It's just javascript though, isn't it?
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« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2009, 10:58:57 AM »

Pretty fecking scary about covers it...

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« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2009, 01:11:44 PM »

q:   isn't this how they do the directed ads that pop up in your browser?

I guess what would be scary would be if you lived in Midlothian, Virginia and received this anonymously.  But the sender would have to put some sort of read receipt on it in order for your mail system to talk back to the mothership, wouldn't it?

And if that's the case, .... then yeah, that's pretty freakin' scary!

q: is there any public way to convert an IP address into a physical address?  (please say no)
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« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2009, 03:00:03 PM »

Gents I use geoIP and I can get all the same information on all of you. This is easily purchaseable and I've been using the country and state database for more than 7 years. The Long/Lat is not always available or purely accurate, but it is rather scary.

Yes, I can convert your IP into a physical address, but it costs a bit and sometimes there is a sweaty post-adolescent comrade involved at the wee hours to pull it off. The feds can do it with impunity if they so choose. That's the frightening one. Anyone else a fan of the movie Enemy of the State?

We not return you to Swingin' the Oldies, broadcasting from a copper-bottle cage, isolated from the grid and digitally impregnable, somewhere in the northern hemisphere.
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« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2009, 03:40:36 PM »

how does geoip work for a cell phone...
I assume the provider has an IP block for each tower? or do they just have an IP block nationally? in which case, its the AOL tollfree number problem again.
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« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2009, 04:05:57 PM »

Not per IP tower, because then you'd be losing and regaining an IP with every handoff. I think it's straight up DHCP connected to your MAC. I have no idea, however, exactly of the technology that is used to isolate exactly where you are with a cell phone, but I can think of loads of ways that it could be done pretty effortlessly (at least from their perspective, I'd imagine you'd need a pretty solid hack or federal warrant to get the info spontaneously)
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« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2009, 01:48:30 AM »

re: spontaneously getting the info
for 200 bones at advance auto parts they have an emailing/smsing device
you can hide under your cheating wifes car and it will constantly text you her
gps, tell you how fast she drove down what road and how long she stayed once
she got wherever.  Can help you find your kid parked on prom night somewhere too.

Makes me tremble....Initially i assumed the phone this person emailed me from included this info
in the mail... i was scraping craigslist emails.

this line from the email:
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"geoLocation": "(-77.651283, 37.503601)",

actually maps to antarctica... the part of the world where
the mole people have a portal to the inner earth is and where admiral bird noticed there was less gravity and the instruments spun wildly......hmmmm

this was obviously cloaked somehow.

jammaster82 ties cell phone to a ferrel cat and disappears to sea on
a Man made island from pallets, sand, fish nets and empty sealed plastic bottles....
 LOL COME FIND ME NOW GW!!!

Im gonna have to patch a DUN server on an eee pc into a ham radio as a bridge
to a proxy and hover it over a wi fi spot in an r/c blimp with solar panels and hampster wheel generator
to serve as a proxy so i can ham radio in from the island and still get internet porn....   

 Jackoff  ROFLMAO ROFLMAO ROFLMAO

have a good one, cacheheads.
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« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2009, 08:49:29 AM »

I scrape my pr0n daily so that I'll not need the grid when I finally escape. Now where were my backup tapes...?
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« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2009, 10:32:22 AM »

This is standard GEO coding script for turning any lat/long into an address, probably for real-time directions to the unmanned and fully armed Peacebringer jet.  It's been widely used since the e911 government requirement that imposed fines on wireless carriers for not having GPS chips in their phones.  All carriers now have them and yes, it's enough to make you remove the battery once in a while (the kryptonite of GPS location tracking in cell phones).  And no, turning the GPS functionality off on your PDA does not turn it off.  It only disables programatic GPS functionality on your phone such as waking it up and sending a location breadcrumb every n-minutes, or if you move out of a specified GEO-fence.  The chip will ALWAYS wake up when requested by the carrier.

Using a web services or RESTful approach, you can script this out using google apps for free as long as you keep the traffic low.  Licensing fees apply for large volume and regular use.

The good news - unless the payload is large enough to blow up a few houses you're probably safe UNLESS: 1. It's the government that decides to terminate you.  They use an alternate GPS band that is accurate down to under 1 meter.  The public band can miss by as far as 1-2 street widths, but decreases with assisted GPS so don't get too comfy.  2. It's a skydiving repo-man that only needs to get close.

In the latter case I'd recommend backing off the hard stuff.

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« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2009, 10:42:42 AM »

 ROFLMAO ... NOW I know who I'm talking to. You'd be interested in saying hello to Jairez, I'd expect. He lurks about here. If Jairez is reading this, then you'd know IsThis as the DMan.

Lordy lord. The gang's almost all here. Now if we could only get Sluggo to participate Wink
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« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2009, 11:09:24 AM »

Nutballs - no need for an IP.  An electronic ID (EID) is used for all PDAs that usually is the phone number.  If no phone number is present (laptops) the same MAC address, IP, login approach is used to identify you.  From there all devices with GPS chips are locatable via:

1. Pure GPS - 3 satellites or more can see you.  A bank vault kills all GPS.
2. AGPS - assisted GPS, one known static location on the ground + 2 or more satellites overhead
3. Triangulation - distance between you and three or more cell towers (least accurate but effective for finding people)
4. Last known location.  If you're being tracked for any reason all of the above methods are applied and breadcrumbs are recorded.  Once you leave the bank vault, for example, the breadcrumbs start collecting again.

In a previous life I designed and implemented GPS location tracking systems for personal and military use in various countries.  As soon as all cell phones had the chips we dropped our non-military handheld manufacturing and rewrote the software for today's PDAs.

Fun technology - but definitely part of the privacy problem.  Police


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« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2009, 09:52:49 PM »

So what would rule then is a blue-tooth app you could run on an iPod Touch that leeches service from phones in the vicinity and allows undetected spoofing across a wide range of phone numbers.  Catch me if you can, numbnuts!! 

I'll take that over a blow-up party sheep  ANY day   Nerd
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« Reply #13 on: April 03, 2009, 12:00:30 AM »

Sounds like an existing iPhone/iPod/iTunes/iLife feature  Wink  I love having a slice of pizza and a beer with people who use iPhones.  After a large cheesy bite and right before they grab their napkins I love to ask them to show me the features.  Guess I'm partial to keys I can feel rather than a complete touch-screen interface.

Don't get me wrong, they're truly fantastic devices as I'm sure you know, but many others are too and have far less fame.  Unfortunately the unspoken promise that owning one will make you smarter, cooler, more creative and potent will not be released until fall of '09.  Apparently Pfizer and Apple are still negotiating margins and Jobs is sticking to his bedpan on this one.

Great to see you here!!!

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« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2009, 11:47:53 AM »

  After a large cheesy bite and right before they grab their napkins I love to ask them to show me the features.   Devilish

mindfucker... hahahaha
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