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« on: July 27, 2010, 12:10:17 PM »

http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/201979/google_introduces_google_apps_for_government.html?tk=nl_dnx_h_crawl

I guess at least someone out there has confidence in Google's ability to keep data safe and secure Wink
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« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2010, 01:08:13 PM »

Jeez, I'm glad I don't live in the US. May the force Need Help you all.
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« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2010, 01:27:11 PM »

 D'oh!

That's a scary thought.  Sensitive but Unclassified (SBU) data isn't anything earth shattering but it does include stuff like people's personal details (including SSN) And security clearance.  Also includes training they have had, certifications, etc.  In some cases it's also logistics like what certain agencies are ordering and what supplies are going where.

When I worked as a contractor for the Army they would pitch a huge fit if they thought you were taking any SBU data off-site.

scary stuff giving information like that to Google.
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« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2010, 02:28:12 PM »

Yes, it definitely seems like scary stuff giving data like this to Google.  I realize I'm in the minority on this but here's a few things to consider.  For one, the cost efficiencies of the cloud make moving there an inevitability, even for governments.  So forget about Google for a moment and realize that this is happening and will be happening regardless.  Then the choice of provider(s) is determined by many factors, with company size and stability being key among them.

Here's another take on things from a data security and accountability perspective.  When the government has data stolen from it, which happens all the time (ask Tom Clancy), we neither hear about it or when we do they perform an internal investigation solving absolutely nothing.  They can literally prevent us from doing anything about any problems arising from this responsibility they assume for all of us.

Google, on the other hand, must obey laws and in the event of a data breach would be accountable to the US government.  The government will then do anything it wants to Google in the name of "National Security."  Somehow I have more faith in the government keeping Google honest than the government keeping itself honest 
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« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2010, 02:36:19 PM »

Somehow I have more faith in the government keeping Google honest than the government keeping itself honest 

Shouldn't be too tough if you're setting the bar that low.
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« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2010, 02:52:02 PM »

frankly though, I actually have more faith in google's ability to protect data than the gov.

Google = highly paid and skilled nerds with an awesome job.
Gov = underpaid fluorescent-bulb cubicle drones.

not that i trust them with "real data" because it might be tempting eventually... if times got tough. However, google has had 1 breach in history that I know of. The gov... lets just say lots...
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« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2010, 10:38:19 PM »

Google = highly paid and skilled nerds with an awesome job.
According ex-googlers, Google pays less than competition because "it's about the mission and not money".
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« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2010, 12:37:29 AM »

Google = highly paid and skilled nerds with an awesome job.
According ex-googlers, Google pays less than competition because "it's about the mission and not money".

That's not what they said at their last shareholder meeting Wink 
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« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2010, 02:28:47 AM »

Google = highly paid and skilled nerds with an awesome job.
According ex-googlers, Google pays less than competition because "it's about the mission and not money".

That's not what they said at their last shareholder meeting Wink 
Yeah but people in the shareholder meeting are nor nerds or skilled Wink
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