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« on: April 09, 2010, 09:28:06 AM » |
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It's not like I have money to burn, but...
It's starting to make some sense to me the more I think of it.
There is a fish tank app that she loves. Netflix to watch Thomas the train, bob the builder, et al. Our videos and movie. Our music, kids music particularly. Interactive books, like the dr seuss books which apparently are all going to be done up iPad style. Already 2 are done.
The other thought is getting her on track to being a computer user. This to me seems like a great starter point for a young kid. A typical computer will be in he future, but right now, it's too much for her, and probably will be for another couple years.
How ridiculous is this this thinking?
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I could eat a bowl of Alphabet Soup and shit a better argument than that.
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« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2010, 10:19:09 AM » |
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I think you are spot on mate. It's tough enough, will bounce enough, you can be pretty extreme in your control of what she has available (I don't know about parental controls on the web though...) this whole thing is the way it's going to go, might as well get her comfy now. When she's ready, she can help dad: Honey, would you pease look up the definition of (x) for daddy? Would you please find out what year (something happened)? She'll think it's a game and helpingn you. You'll actually be teaching her how to Do her homework before she even has any 
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It is now believed, that after having lived in one compound with 3 wives and never leaving the house for 5 years, Bin Laden called the U.S. Navy Seals himself.
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« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2010, 10:28:31 AM » |
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>How ridiculous is this this thinking? It's completely on par with the rest of your iPad logic 
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I would love to change the world, but they won't give me the source code.
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« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2010, 10:34:48 AM » |
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Dick. 
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It is now believed, that after having lived in one compound with 3 wives and never leaving the house for 5 years, Bin Laden called the U.S. Navy Seals himself.
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« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2010, 10:43:10 AM » |
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It's not like I have money to burn, but...
It's starting to make some sense to me the more I think of it.
There is a fish tank app that she loves. Netflix to watch Thomas the train, bob the builder, et al. Our videos and movie. Our music, kids music particularly. Interactive books, like the dr seuss books which apparently are all going to be done up iPad style. Already 2 are done.
The other thought is getting her on track to being a computer user. This to me seems like a great starter point for a young kid. A typical computer will be in he future, but right now, it's too much for her, and probably will be for another couple years.
How ridiculous is this this thinking?
This line of thinking could go to a scary place.... this 2.5 year old will be immersed into the techno world.... break the ipad, unplug the 3g router and drive her to the country man UNPLUG NOW UNPLUG NOW... Its not bad enough that even without trying her entire life will be photographed.. and i hope you are making a time lapse movie of her entire life... just take a photo same framing and distance as the last roughly and animate them... would be sweet to watch all 18 years in say, three minutes flat! the ipad is just a step up from the tiny screens on the backs of headrests that are raising children today... the thing will soon grow into her hands and never leave... instant near sighted super focus... the outside world will go out of focus... instantly in touch with all of youtube and every thing else that god forbid should come across the evil screen. RUN AWAY!! 
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« Last Edit: April 09, 2010, 10:45:15 AM by jammaster82 »
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The watched pot, never boils... But if you walk away from it , the soup burns. What gives?
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« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2010, 10:47:59 AM » |
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Settings, general, restrictions : that'll do ya.
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« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2010, 10:58:24 AM » |
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Yea the restriction are limited, but all I would have to worry about is her accidentally typing cubiiusegfjubsec.chd in a browser. Everything else is fine. Plus you can prevent purchases which is all I care about really. @jam. Yeah I get what your saying. But I apply a similar logic to it, as I do to argue with perk why he is chicken to use google for anything. She already is exposed to a boatload of tech, and even knows how to use a lot of it. I am more of the opinion that I want to be a part of her learning to navigate the dangers of the tech, instead of just hoping she neve has an interest in it, which is unrealistic of course. The future is near sighted gadget in hand. As long as I also make sure to do real world thing with her, it's all good. I already and building a library of stuff to do with her as she grows. One of my favorites is the book: fifty dangerous things http://www.amazon.com/Fifty-Dangerous-Things-Should-Children/dp/0984296107/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1270835786&sr=8-1I do agree that it's a bit absurd where kids are heading, compared to what we grew up with. But it's a fact of life for them. Avoiding it will set them back I think.
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I could eat a bowl of Alphabet Soup and shit a better argument than that.
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« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2010, 11:58:15 AM » |
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« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2010, 01:46:51 PM » |
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yep, thats basically my kid with it. she knows how to get to thomas on netflix and play with "nemo" in the shitty little fishtank app. Its scary. I am getting iPad insurance, at least for hers, from these guys: http://www.worthavegroup.com/ipad$45 for the base model. worth it imo.
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« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2010, 03:55:46 PM » |
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Nice find ... So it covers stupidity as well? Wondeing if some Docs might want that..
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« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2010, 04:28:29 PM » |
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I wonder if it covers blood damage? lol Anyway. I did the deed. Got an ipad for her. Gonna spring it on her tomorrow  Tonight gonna load it up with the anything I think she might like. My wife and I have talked about rules for use and limits. I think for now, 1 hour at a time, up to 3 times a day is enough. Its about the same as we limit TV which she doesnt really sit an watch anyway, just wants it on for background sound while she plays with her cars and trains. I hope this doesnt ruin that behavior of playing with physical stuff, but if it does, we will limit more aggressively. Im tempted to blog the adventure, but am too busy to add that shit to my plate i think... lol
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« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2010, 04:02:37 AM » |
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Those limits are significantly less time than i spend OFF the internet in one week.. 
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« Reply #12 on: April 10, 2010, 04:16:07 AM » |
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How long before this form of computer use replaces pen and paper in schools? we may come full circle...my grandfather used to tell stories of portable chalk and chalkboard, about this size and dimension being purchased for a penny to use at school... My mind is racing thinking about what the future will look like.. Devices sold, like retainers or braces to realign peoples necks from the hunched over surfing the ipad position...  A few months ago i had to actively not kill two idiot teenagers who has paused in the middle of the freaking street to laugh at a MEME on their smartphone... so some natural selection might come into play and clean up the gene pool some.. Facebook poke instead of holding hands... twittering each other from across the dinner table.. human contact will be a delicacy.
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« Reply #13 on: April 10, 2010, 04:53:02 AM » |
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>I hope this doesnt ruin that behavior of playing with physical stuff
I think that's by far the greatest danger. Back in the 90's I was interviewed about living/working virtually. Besides having people literally getting angry because I would not allow contact by phone, the only real negative I personally felt was the increased sense of frustration with the real world. Tangibles have friction.
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« Reply #14 on: April 10, 2010, 06:51:24 AM » |
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What is it about working virtually that ups the panic friction?
It seems that the demons are pounding harder at the email and skype door working from home and is much more of a distraction than being trapped in that little box , forced to listen to grays anatomy recounts under diress... Like nb's said, do you want me to spend 30 minutes fixing it or (another) 30 minutes telling you again that im gonna fix it..
Their questions always begin with: "When?"
If you ask me the real world sucks. I went on vacation last weekend and parked evidently TOO CLOSE to some guys MOTORCYCLE. Which he announced to everyone in the restaurant.. guy is like, MOVE YOUR VAN OUT OF THE WAY OF MY MOTORCYCLE.. I was like, NO! hahaha then he called the police... I had to wait for an hour while he whined to them then they asked me my story and said have a nice day.
Im not saying you should promote her agoraphobia but Back in the day, people just got pissed and that was all there was to it now every idiot has a camera and a hotline to mom and dad...
The world isn't an awesome place ... people are psycho.. Another similar idiot called the police on me because my dogs were barking at him through the car window too loud.
You know, this vicious beast:
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