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« on: February 05, 2010, 10:13:33 AM »

Check out this chart at CoM: http://www.cultofmac.com/apple-second-only-to-microsoft-in-cash-and-investments-and-thats-about-to-change/29230

To come from the brink of death man years ago to be within a stones throw of being more cash rich and investment heavy than M$ is pretty amazing. Especially since their market base is still considerably smaller, although if we look at total lives affected by each (including iPods, iPhones etc) then the number is probably much closer. I'd not short sell Apple if I were you... Wink
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« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2010, 02:34:34 PM »

I just looked at their numbers.  Holy shit.  Almost every measurement is insanely good financially.  But I disagree on one point.  Everyone should short sell Apple like crazy - except you of course Wink
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« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2010, 03:42:04 PM »

The problem with investing in IT is that it is almost always boom or bust.
And to make matters worse it occurs at light speed Smiley.

Historically this is not new.
When the first privateers where working out of england (ie drake). They would get financiers to spread the risk.
If the ship came back like when drake captured over 20 tons of gold, then the investors would have a boom. Or possibly the ship might be lost, and the investors lose everything Smiley

Later with the england - india - china tea opium trade with the tea clippers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clipper

If they could manage to unload their opium in china (which was contraband), manage to escape pirates, not get destroyed by typhoons, And then make it back to india to load up on tea, in one run they could get back the cost of the vessel.

In both cases the chances of success depend heavily on the captains of the vessels.

In the case of apple. Thier itablet might be a huge flop (or it might be a success). Apple again could be plagued by production problems which where the cause of their almost demise 15 years back. Also in the modern world, apple is dependant on other suppliers. So their production  problems might not even be their own fault. To make matters worse, things are now happening much faster then it in the past. So in the past it would take many years to mismanage a company before it collapsed, but now it can be done in a few months Smiley.
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« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2010, 09:40:24 PM »

Well you could retire now if you had bet the farm on aapl 20 years ago.

Compare AAPL to any other stock during the nine eleven stuff ...aapl
held strong and then shot up like a rocket.



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« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2010, 07:15:03 AM »

You could have at least doubled your money in a year and a half if you had gotten it when it was at 100 something....  I mean the average volume is like 25 million or something.

Say what you want about the iPad but well see if the HP Slate shuts down with a virus from java / flash security holes and the guy with the stable iPad will  hit *the* button and it will come right on years later... maybe even after being dropped in a swimming pool or something..

If you can virtualize windows on it, then you have the best of both worlds... one to really practically use virus free..  and a little jail for windows to be in where alll that failure can be toyed with in a box.

And 10 hours off the grid? No Contract?  Virtualize windows and get your java flash on?

AAPL ftw IMO ....
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« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2010, 10:04:55 AM »

You could have at least doubled your money in a year and a half if you had gotten it when it was at 100 something....  I mean the average volume is like 25 million or something.
I've bought and sold them several times now and made some damn fine flow. The press is our friend: today they love Apple (everyone buys, my limit order hits and I sell) tomorrow they think Apple sucks (I buy after everyone sells and my limit order hits) LOL it's friggin great. Just remember these simple words: sell your winners, buy your losers.

If you can virtualize windows on it, then you have the best of both worlds... one to really practically use virus free..  and a little jail for windows to be in where alll that failure can be toyed with in a box.
Citrix Receiver is particularly interesting. Here's one of the few places that the lack of multitasking bums me out: if you want to do another app, you leave receiver which kills the session and you need to restart when yout come back. Although I don't need it to be *doing anything* while I'm on another app, it'd be great for the iPhone/Pad to put the app on hold so that I could come right back to it. BTW receiver and VPN stuff works incredibly well on the iPhone, so I am enormously excited about the 'Pad for this reason.

And 10 hours off the grid? No Contract?  Virtualize windows and get your java flash on?

AAPL ftw IMO ....
10 hours of full time playback... 30 DAYS of standby. That makes recharging a nonissue anymore. A simple no contract data plan, AT&T SWEARING that they are going to get their LTE up next year makes for a nice stew. I'm not optimistic about it coming in on time, but it will all come. And it's going to be great. I'll have one the day they come out and will review.

Betcha I'm not the only one ... Wink
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