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[nop_90]

Honestly I could give a damn if Apple is successful in Asia (although I think THEY really want to succeed). They have gotten to where they are WITHOUT it.

For me it is a deeper point then just "Apple". Honestly whether or not Apple succeeds in Asia is of little importance in the big picture.
But Apple indirectly has an influence on how other people may market in Asia.
Today we live in a "global economy", we have always had a "global economy" but the effects today are quicker, and deeper lasting.
Often it is not what you do, but how you do it.
Whether it is selling Coca Cola or international policy, the same principles apply.

China is now has larger investments in Africa,South America and other developing nations then USA.
On a whole, despite being "capitalists" they are liked better then USA.
This is because of their sales approach.

USA is not perfect. But they have had a positive influence on the world.
Apple seems to have similar type type "attitude".  But they seem very "heavy handed".
Their intentions are good, but sometimes they screw up royally

[isthisthingon]

BTW: Apple's iPad2 sells out China in less than 4 hours

Thanks Cult-Of-Mac. A few possibilities exist here and they all tell a far less favorable story than the one we're supposed to be in awe of.

• Apple failed miserably to anticipate the appropriate level of inventory to stock (yet again) and "shot itself in the foot" with another newsworthy quick sellout
• Hardly anyone - comparatively - wanted one so they intentionally provided only enough iPads such that they could "sell out!!" in just 4-hours, when only around 250 devices were sold
• Cult-Of-Mac employs a corrupt Mandarin translator who turns any reality into a big hit for Apple
• All of the above

Cult-Of-Mac would love the world to believe they're only just as partial as PC World, Network World, etc. Nope sorry. Now if there was a "Cult-Of-Microsoft" that I continued to quote for some ridiculous reason with the intentions of supporting absolutely any conceivable point, I'd expect the same corrective response from the free thinking world: WTF?

You really need to stop reading Cult-Of-Mac or begin laughing at it like I do with The Enquirer. It's a joke - nothing more. It's down there with Faux News. And I realize very clearly why you would want to believe what they "report." But I can't understand why you would reveal the source of such utter nonsense 

If I was a Mac fanboi yet wanted to appear tech-first - preferred vendor second, I'd distance myself from them to strengthen my perceived impartiality 

[perkiset]

LOL Wow man. Anything to deny the possibility that Apple products are simply desired.

@Laugh at COM: Silly goose. You must really imagine that this is my only reading. It's fair that COM does the best job of fanboi presentation of Mac stories and, most often, provides the most photos, so they make a better href. But you're starting to sound like a Deather meng. Osama CANT BE DEAD and even if he is it cannot POSSIBLY be anything to do with Barack Obama. Your dislike of Apple or disdain for their practices does not make them miserable or failures or anything like that. It entirely plausible that you may despise them AND they are successful.

[isthisthingon]

LOL Wow man. Anything to deny the possibility that Apple products are simply desired.

@Laugh at COM: Silly goose. You must really imagine that this is my only reading. It's fair that COM does the best job of fanboi presentation of Mac stories and, most often, provides the most photos, so they make a better href. But you're starting to sound like a Deather meng. Osama CANT BE DEAD and even if he is it cannot POSSIBLY be anything to do with Barack Obama. Your dislike of Apple or disdain for their practices does not make them miserable or failures or anything like that. It entirely plausible that you may despise them AND they are successful.

What I said was the Cult-Of-Mac is a joke and continue to wonder why you would ever quote them in the first place. I suppose I can understand if you think they have more/better linkable images, but unless those images originated from something far more reputable such as any actual news organization, I'd suspect Photoshop in every image. 

Interesting name: COM. It's faster to type, yes. But more importantly it follows the footsteps of Kentucky Fried Chicken in becoming simply KFC. Fried is about as popular these days as "Cult" 

Sorry, it's not about President Obama, bigotry, I mean birth certificate "conspiracies" or even Apple this time 

It's about denying the entrance of anything into the forum of respectable logic from the likes of Fox News and the Cult-Of-Mac. Some people swear by Fox News as they do the Cult-Of-Mac. That doesn't mean I'll sit by and let either of these equally ridiculous agendas masquerading as media organizations get the time of day. Well, we can always talk about anything of course. But just know that when you reference a self-described "Cult" media organization as anything other than a joke I'll be required to call it out for being just what it is: propaganda from a self-titled cult. Yes, truth "happens" in the Enquirer too - see John Edwards Fidelity Wiki. But if I continued to quote them to support any opinions I actually did care about, I'd expect the free-thinking world to give me a nudge in a more respectable direction - for my own sake.

I'll give the Cult-Of-Mac credit for at least being up front about how they should be interpreted: as a cult. Fox is more insidious for calling themselves "News." Notice their name is literally "Fox News^®," not Fox: News at 10 or Fox - Nightly News.

Anyway, the point is that you continue to reference this cult and actually seem to want to strengthen your opinions as a result of it. It's entirely no different from quoting the John Birch Society, Ayn Rand or the Heritage Foundation in espousing the supposed merits of market fundamentalism. The only difference is that this cult espouses the merits of Apple fundamentalism 

Also important to remember what Fox News has figured out. It takes far too much time to purify and fact-check what they report so effectively they can continue to barf out propaganda and always stay ahead of the game. That is IF and only if we continue to watch their program. Same with this cult of mac. The only thing we can do is change the channel from Fox and opt out of reading cult propaganda 

And the absolute least we could do is refrain from quoting them ever, if we want to be taken seriously 

[perkiset]

Your problem is the name. Cult Of Mac (  ) reports virtually the same thing as all the Apple blogs, tech blogs etc with the exception of the PC-centric PC Week and Windows magazine. It is fair that the commentary is usually more flowery towards Apple but it's not made up stuff, outright lies or spinmeister hooie like Fox news. The spin present is clearly identifiable, just as it is in ANY publication with a clear bias. But they are not making shit up man. Although any corporation's efforts will always be biased towards themselves, the simple and irrefutable facts of Apple's success, pretty incredible products and sales numbers tell the tale. The notion of brain washing and lemmings just doesn't cut it. Photoshopped images? JTFC man, you are really reaching.

When you say "you continue to reference this cult" you're stirring a tempest in a teacup. Its a blog that reports the same stuff as any number of outlets ITTO. You just don't like it. That's fair and your complete prerogative. But it doesn't make it valid.

[nop_90]

The news media now is so biased, it is not even funny. And it is getting worse.
I am too lazy to look up the article.
It was on Fox news.
Headline was "Canada elects their own Tea Party".
Then it stated that the "conservatives" won a majority with 60%+ of the seats.
How majority of Canadians where "right wing", and Canada's economy is booming because of "conservatives" and USA should copy them .

Real Facts :
1) Canada has a parlimentary system. Because of the way it works. Conservatives got 40% of popular vote, NDP (socialists 30%), Liberals (in the middle guys 20%) and Greens (tree huggers 5%). So by no means was it an overwhelming majority for the "Right Wing".
2) Canadian Conservatives are not very "right wing", compared to the "US Dems" they are "socialist"
3) The NDP and other socialist parties gained a tremendous amount of votes. This was at the cost of the "Liberals". Mainly because many Canadians feel we are becoming "too American" and because of Canada's involvement in the war in Afganistan.
4) Canada's booming economy (compared to US) can be directly attributed to all the trade missions every PM has done with China and Asia. Almost every PM has traveled to China to open trade. Even many provincial premiers (like your governors) has travelled to China/Asia to open trade. Our booming economy is because we are selling all sorts of shit to China/Asia . These trade missions have paid off in "spades".

Ayn Rand and other authors are often "misquoted" taken out of context etc. She is a good writer and has some valid points.
I could probably skim thru this board and Cherry Pick to make perks the apple fanboi he is into a guy who hates apple.
Then I could do the same thing to make ITTO into an apple fanboi

[isthisthingon]

PC-centric PC Week? Who owns the PC? If, however, the PC was still owned by IBM and the world was filled with IBM PCs, then you may have a point. But PC Week is simply a magazine dedicated to enthusiasts of PCs and all the things you can do with them. I love to build PCs from a wide variety of parts suppliers. PC Week isn't strictly a Windows/Microsoft magazine. If it was then why would it contain all those cool Ubuntu articles as well?

Just think of it like this. It's as if you're espousing the merits of buying/using Microsoft Office based on the success stories published in the Cult-Of-Microsoft 

 

[Frankdavis]

Call me crazy, but wouldn't Apple be able to sell their products for less in China since they would save on shipping? 

Recently heard about fake apple stores in china...
China has thousands of unauthorized dealers who sell Apple products, but the latest string of fake stores has taken counterfeiting to a new level.